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Mon, 18 February 2019 - Peer review contextual study - KF

Peer review contextual study - KF

15 mins on one person - really be generous and question the writing - go deep, ask the questions - how, why, where? tell me the answer. find the parts that feel like a hurdle. the parts that challenge. make sure that what is being said is clear - not over complicated - know overarching comments that may be stumbling blocks.

Feedback FROM Rhoda -

After the making day - my description on the work I was doing and the fibres helped with Rhoda’s understanding of the 500 words

Performance of drawing - the recording of the drawing - the contrast of the time of working - the projection of the work on top of the finished piece - use the drawing and the programme to do it.

The last paragraph - the layering of the discussion and my practice- really tightly - reprition of   - the accuracy of the drawing so it looks like a print

My practice is integral to the writing - a

Add performance to the keywords as it is a performance -

The tactility of drawing and the fibres covered in a drawing - could they be collected - fibres really intrigued Rhodas thoughts and what was left behind- - what's left before - what left behind

Carbon paper - whats left behind- - really embedded in practice- the tactility and the performance are being enacted in the work I’m doing - a layering in the drawing the writing and the practice -

Keep the work narrow and not to broad - not as linked with the collisions but more linked with the tactility and the performance -

The speculative act of working and drawing - and know - how do we know - the layers of the work have now become the performance layered over the made - the making and the made -

Mon, 3 December 2018 -Group crit - KF

Group crit - KF

Open discussion -

On the 3rd of December, we will be having an Open Discussion in which we can have time to discuss emerging issues within our practice/writing/thinking. what do you NEED to discuss and share - what is exciting you - what is preoccupying, puzzling, interesting you. Can you share a question, or an image or a quote, or text or….. by Friday 30th, please.

we can see the practices you are involved with as a whole, not just making, not just thinking, not just theory…...all of it.

Make it useful!

KF- how we manifest practice - Charles Garoian - how we make things concrete, how we see things differently when they are outside of our heads 

https://youtu.be/MKY6VN2Tsis

conceptual wonderings, the ideas of what practice can be and how we find our route through it.

Slide show - - how do we take risks? the ways we all take risks are different and appropriate to our own practices.  Kettles Yard - small things are shifted and made a little more interesting - Jim Eade - Keep off the grass - signs that were ignored and then one that wasn't - things that we are afraid of that we don't know, the sudden fear of what we don't know.  - whats our grass? what are we afraid of? 

my question - think through the making - that is your research - allows there to be concrete links through the process and be embedded in the practice - so we are researching through the materials

Art pursues knowledge and yet resists the assimilative urge to know. This is the why, the what and the how - the questioning through our stuff not just in our heads

Speculative and emergent - a relationship with the work - acknowledging the movement - try to feel unity while in flux - understanding that I am part of the relationship - 

Greenhill - thinking and the aspects - can you replace the word making - is that what I need - this list, to consider that practice and thinking are the same, that research is the making, that thinking needs to happen through the making - let the making research and think for me. 

meeting point - this is something I want to articulate - how do I make these ideas come together - worrying away materially and conceptually - trying to get to the foothold. trying to find the foundations - 

the questions are mapping the practice and doing so appropriately - the difference between thinking and making - having an intention and playing purposefully. 

audio film from Joseph Bouys - link to come.

My moment was actually at the end of the session - I have included the notes from othere members moments below my feedback.

https://katievw.com/2018/12/01/30-11-2018-questions-for-open-discussion/

Above is the initial post with my question in. 

Key points are:

Changing a practice - more art based from design led

Influence or guidance - how to get comfortable

Can a practice change dramatically with a simple term change? 

outside sources impacting directly on practice - to credit? ownership?

materials led vs research led - help!

KF - entanglements happen - differentiate between what you know, what you learn and what you are influenced by and how to unpick it. constantly influenced but don't reference it all - when you find something that influences perfectly and understands your position within it - how do you determine which part is yours. the drawings are coming from me - it's been read through my work - she saw it and offered it - she saw it and found it there in the work. 

jv - would the it help to stop questioning?

KF - don't have to do either or - allows you to play you can do both and allow them to coexist and that they are interdependent and correspondent. complementary - what its doing is enriching - don't have to say whether I am practice-led- or concept based - push the 'what I am doing' sometimes labelling it actually blocks us in to a corner - shift it out of the head and allow the work to happen and realise that the thinking and creating happens at the same time. Let it happen and the drawings take shape.

chatbox:

-We are all building on the work of those before us


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we all need a framework to give our practices context!
you are tethered!


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By a chair?!
You seemed so happy on making day getting into the materials


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I guess the difference between design based practice and art based practice is intention even if the outcome is the same physically


- I recognize what you say. I can easily get overwhelmed by my thoughts. That is why I tend to focus more on making because I know my head will continuously do its work; this makes its way easier for me.


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I always thought that fine art is a deeper version of other art/design disciplines

- Some of the best scientists are artists too


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also Katie: embrace the experiences from the past. I always try to use whatever I developed in the past

KF - the shift from the architectural - to joins and then built - back into drawing and flattening. all the work to happen - allow the drawings to grow in their potential - just let them grow and be surprised by it. Interesting questions of authorship and influence - do my work! collision - disruption - confidence - drawing colliding.

Immediate reaction after the session:

That felt really awkward - there was a point where the pause for feedback was too long and no one had anything to say to me. How do I read that? Were my questions not challenging or engaging enough, was everyone just over it and I was the unfortunate soul a the end of the session no-one could be bothered to engage with as they all wanted their beds? I feel like I'm at a different point to the other members - I spent last year questioning my research and how it feeds into my work while everyone went through materials and making and now I'm going through materials while everyone builds on their research and concepts. Is there something wrong with my practice? is it weak? Some days I question what I'm doing here and if I belong - the language frequently evades me and I spend so much time looking things up to play catch up.

Perhaps sleep will help.

Takeaways from other peoples moments:

questioning time - images that are timeless - or from time? unmooring time - I’m thinking about the way we digest time - the photo is a second in time - a time-lapse is time past but sped up - the piece at Ways of Seeing in NYUAD

https://davidclaerbout.com/The-Algiers-Sections-of-a-Happy-Moment-2008

tactile materiality and physical experience of visual experience - 
the tactile eye by Jennifer Barber

Paul Klee - taking an line for a walk - 

lens based media - analogue vs digital - scale, time and distance - how close you become to something - 

carve out time - using the commute to make work - the car journey productive.

Is the possibility more compelling than the product? How much consideration should there be for the audience? How much research do they need to see? Is a poem enough to let them in? 

KVW - My students and I had a conversation about the conceptuality of space last week - the fact that we talk about space being ‘out there’ but that we are also in space - it’s around us and in us
 - 
a vacuum is still something though—nothingness is still a 'thing’



A metaphor
 - Zen nothingness

Interpretation of objects - looking for a similarity of object - for validation? symbolism - semiotics - scientific drawing to understand an art practice
studying objects - how they speak to us - question how long is culturally acceptable to listen to an object? 

Are all art pieces related/connected to ethical questions? Is the term political correctness* intertwined with the term ethical responsible? Are artists expected to be politically correct/ethical responsible? Or are they may be expected to sometimes deviate from it? Related to the previous question, to what extent can artist behave ‘unethically’ for the sake of increasing awareness or making a statement?

if we are seen to be misrepresenting something - being open to the fact that you might trigger someone or something. Do I need to know what happened next? blocked the path -  put our work out there consistently.

working with others

narratives to be simple, but multiple layers can add to the complexity.

the chance element is really interesting

the butterfly effect - that aspect of a happening having a massive impact or a nothing impact
 and not knowing

work put out there -  let it off and it's beyond the control 
- the instigator

playfulness is fascinating and reminds me of this http://playthecitynowornever.com/

KF - punctuation of every day - situationist's - happenings - a shift has happened with the work as you can see it and it is beyond you. People being annoyed by it - slinkachu - model people enacting things with the debris of daily life

Mon, 12 November -Group Crit - KF

Group Crit - KF

When: Mon, 12 November, 5pm – 8pm

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https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1K_23Vx6Y-MLVYRKwPeCC9NAq229YqpH541n7HM-5xlw/edit?usp=sharing

MA Group Crit notes: 

My thoughts about the presentation above:

  • Chaos Stagnant
  • wanting to explore process and materials but struggling to link the work
  • and then Catherine Baker happened!
  • materials led practice - I don't know what that is or how to approach it - unlearning design background.
  • it felt good and the feeling of feeling felt good!
  • the sensuality of the materials.

Feedback from cohort:

Continuum of calm across a rocky road - put an object in (to the book form)

thread  - the thread has potential

took the line with me - over concrete and drag graphite - temporality - 

possibility and a period of time.

fabric or glass - horizon/division

space and anxiety - draw lines on to different elements - powerful and architecture of space - in a space

boundaries and bound - continuum- Jacobs ladder

windows - line above and below

sewing a line through lots of different things

the terminology refreshes

reframe

understand the material process of being an artist - going through the process of making

scale

What happens when you take the line outside?

or a line that disappears after a bit of time - prisons - the great escape - soil dumping.

francis alys

materials that graphite can't stick to

what happens walking through that line?

integrate previous in to current

Anthony Gormley - steel lines crossing a space @ketttles yard - walk under/around

do you feel more comfortable using textile techniques? as in sewing a line as you did in your previous work?

I'm interested in knowing if this work in direct response with your feelings? What happens when you rotate some of these pages so that the line is broken up? - I wanted to ask you about scale too

what about the speed at which you work?

maybe a daily project?

yeah Katie - 30 day daily task?

aesthetically pleasing.

Monday, 1 Oct 2018 - Tutorial - KF

Regarding the collage:

Incongruous

Gordon Matta-Clark  - I link to /James Turrell

Sam Griffin

How important is it that they existed before? this is about thinking how much the origins are important in the collages or images - could it be anything or is it in the details of the work already created or in specifically made images to deconstruct and reorder.

How important is it that it's my work?

film it & photograph

materials and interaction

thread of thought and connection, gathering, pull - rupture, a way of thinking

space -

&where we place ourselves -

planes - punching through and mapping

what happens outside the frame image & territory that is known - mapping

the territory of practice - table or frame

a photo of table & work, then sideways - multiview, what is beyond the piece - untangled threads, pulling away

google - the relationship of something I can’t grasp

What do I want? seeing the ‘other’ in it  

Manifesto- who you are

the lense

informing the work & the dialogue

& the entanglements of matter around the clarity & the perception

the knot & embroidery what is clear and ordered about the stitch and what is knotted and complicated. we discussed the difference between the front of embroidery and the back.

the unpicking

repetition & what is found

What do we overlook -

contain, contrast & leave out

tendrils

What is lost and what is found in repetition

Agreed actions:

  • explore collage further - continue with own work collage as that has urgency and explore the possibilities of found image collage, how does that change the work?
  • consider the territory of the work - where does it start and finish? what happens outside of these parameters? How does that affect the work? Consider the frame.
  • delve into the possibility of the thread and its tendrils, what does the repetition of embroidery do for the work? How does this thread metaphorically and physically move through and within it?
  • Keep notes of reflections and discussions I’m having about my work.
  • question scale and the imagery that is on the outside of the frame?


17/09/2018 - 22/09/2018 MA2 Extension, research and play.

Extension, research and play.

How do we extend practice -towards what?

Opening our practice/research up to different disciplines, inputs, outputs and/or collaborations; considering the possibilities of what can feed into our practice and what can also come out of it and for whom. What products and/or by-products do we generate, who is consuming or could consume them?

As an artist how can you extend your practice physically; perhaps by building on existing and/or incorporating new skills, adding breadth and/or depth to media manipulations, and/or exploring the time a space of art making? In another aspect, the research undertaken as an artist can be more refined, deeper, digging into territories that excite and enliven a practice. Considering how the work is consumed by the audience; are they viewer, consumer, participant, victim or judge? Do they have a choice, is that a factor? Will they have an input, an output or a takeaway?

If these queries are responded to the practice may develop depth and breadth that can be witnessed/experienced by both the artist and the audience. Challenges push towards improvement and clarity.

Personal:

Going forward areas for extension are:

  • Refine my research - focus, stop trying to cover so much that the message is diluted by conflicting and confusing messages.
  • Explore my palette - the limitations of colour choice may be holding the work back, let colour feed in as necessary and be a considered part of the work. Stop resisting it.
  • Audience and installation - entanglement is a theme that I have also resisted through fear of complications and lack of skills - PLAY with this.

How are we curious materially and yet focussed?

I don’t know how to answer this question clearly. I think this is because I am too curious materially and lack focus. My focus is my research practice which I have been developing for the best part of 3 years but gets swept up into tangents. These tangents allow for other questions and concepts to emerge but these make the physical work muddly and therefore tend to get logged and then stored as I attempt to restrict my concepts in an effort to maintain a focused practice. My thoughts work so fast due to my mental make-up that I have a tendency to run away with ideas and miss out large chunks of physical development as I have mentally processed the possible outcomes and decided on a path without physical exploration. The challenge has been to ensure that the development and exploration happens and is detailed and justified, a task that feels complex and slow. My material practice has suffered due to this as I don’t stay with something for very long (other than the tracings). I long to develop a piece over time but worry that the lack of quantity will be judged.

Purposeful play

This feels so relevant, it's now a part of my life due to my assigned roles of both Mother and Teacher, an aspect that has been somewhat absent in my practice due to being out of the teaching profession for a few years. Most of the cohort are teachers, of this I am aware. But I question how much we now look to play to move our students through their work, or is it a series of repetitive tasks to tick off assessment criteria and fill out the necessary paperwork. Do we work with our students, model best practice or ‘practice what we preach’ as the saying goes? I’m feeling invigorated to be teaching again, to have those moments in the classroom and the workshop where the simple task of joining in brings a new idea or dimension to my work. By removing the weight of research and context and simply making, how can I transform my practice, what doors with metaphorically open, what opportunities will show themselves?

What ideas and concepts are preoccupying you within your practice?

I’m still very much enthralled with the repetition of ‘daily life’ and the events of chaos that stir up the mundane. Feeding into this is the aspect of assigned gender roles and a thirst for philosophical knowledge (I just can’t stop listening to philosophy podcasts and reading!). Since the beginning of March, I have been working with a research group looking into the role of the Manifesto in art and this research has bought up some questions regarding the concepts behind art, the allocation of work to movements and the thinking behind the movements.

Currently, I feel an urge to move away from my sparse fragmented images into dense heavy pieces. Upon reflection, I can see this is a reaction to the now dense calendar I have, the weight of responsibilities, and commitments that now need to be negotiated.
Are there areas from the research that you did last year that you feel need more interrogation?

Since completing the contextual study I have a desire to explore the aspect of taking up space, navigating around a space and the physicality and illusion of form in space; linking to the manner in which we navigate around chaos both large and small, physical and mental.

What do you want to find out more about that could inform your practice?

Performance - I’m full of fear regarding performative art but am now considering how to make the audience the performers such as Gustav Metzer’s Crawl Space which I recently experienced in Abu Dhabi. The thought of performing is both thrilling and terrifying but perhaps I can navigate around that obstacle by enlisting the consumers of the artwork as the unwitting performers of it as well.

Exploratory Project - Wk 4 - 11/03/2018- 17/03/2018

    • Week 4 Mar 11th Continue with production, once each moment of production is 'completed' as such, reflect immediately to stay on top and also revisit and compare with previous productions - Mon 12 Mar: Tutorial AR  

 Reflections since last tutorialStill getting caught up in research rather than making and using reading/organization as procrastination. Also holding back on making down to fear and overthinking so need to move on with this.Feeling more comfortable with MA Journal, but still can share more. Perhaps start to share more ad hoc using phone etc.Discussion and recommendations EXPLORATORY PROJECT: Don’t use the plan as a stick to beat myself with! It’s to go back to but not to stick rigidly to. Document stuff – add it into the plan. Where am I now? What do I feel about where I am now? FEEDBACK FROM AW: dipping books: making them more eloquent, became object & something more than books – more metaphorical, poignant – sad & out of date, no longer available, disappearing or collapsing, how it affected them, more poetic.Revisit and consider the material finish, edit out (or in) the successful ones. In evaluation they work but materials need to be refined, think about how they come across both digitally and in person. One problem can be that too much work is submitted and not edited to show the strongest practice.Think about what you did in terms of transformation.MA Journal: make spaces for reflection, revisit plan, not use as a weapon, meet with group. Agreed actions (if any)

  • revisit plan
  • document making
  • making more for the sake of it and let it evolve
  • evaluate materiality